I thrifted these jeans back in Lake Charles, LA when Greg and I were stuck there after our tire blew out. They're one of the few good things that happened while we were there! They're actually men's Wranglers and I could barely zip them up at first. Imagine if you will, women in the 80s using pliers to zip up their Gloria Vanderbilt high rise jeans. That's kind of what it was like. Fortunately after one wear they fit like a dream.